Tick,
A complete wheel is better that a tire!! I have one of the original factory fitted Yokoyamas taking up space in my garage - 265/70/16. Yours if you come and collect it. Then I have a Yokohama AT 275/70/16 on a spare rim. Yours if you get somebody to take it of the rim and fit the new tyre that is in my garage. Both tyres have ± 40 - 50% tread life left. Last week at Gert (Pajero scrap yard) I saw a steel Pajero GLX rim lying in the yard.
On the place to carry a second spare: If you put it on your roof, it takes up valuable space and causes drag. If you fit it behind the standard wheel as I do, you need a suitable bracket. In this position it does not rob you of any useable space.
If you are interested call me. My house is in Wonderboom (Pretoria) at 012 567 4909 or 083 564 9141.
Cloyd.
Hi,
Having done quite a bit of overlanding in my 2005 SWB Pajero, this is my take on the situation - please note this is only my opinion
In the SWB pajero, you don't have much space. Not sure if you have a roof rack? I have a roof top tent, so that is all that goes on the roof Also remember that if you have a roof rack, then the 2nd spare wheel takes up about 30-40% of your total recommended load (+/- 75kg) on the roof rack.
Fitting a wheel or tire on the back door is not something I'll do. It is an extra 30-35kg for a wheel+tire or 20-25kg for a tire only, of weight on the back door. I wouldn't feel comfortable driving along a heavily corrugated road with that setup.
With all the above in mind, I don't travel with a 2nd spare.
I fitted Mud terrain tires and carry a tire repair kit. That way, the possibility of getting a puncture is far less. I've never had a puncture on any of my trips (including Kaokoland, rocky trails, etc.) I also don't drive over 100km/h on gravel (normally stick to around 80 or 90) - this helps reduce chances of puncturing rear tires by stones disturbed/lifted by the front tires.
Maybe I'm just lucky... but my friend also has had mud terrain tires fitted, and also never has problems with punctures.
With all this said... if you have the space... go for it! Rather safe than sorry!
Cheers
Greg
Having done quite a bit of overlanding in my 2005 SWB Pajero, this is my take on the situation - please note this is only my opinion
In the SWB pajero, you don't have much space. Not sure if you have a roof rack? I have a roof top tent, so that is all that goes on the roof
Also remember that if you have a roof rack, then the 2nd spare wheel takes up about 30-40% of your total recommended load (+/- 75kg) on the roof rack.Fitting a wheel or tire on the back door is not something I'll do. It is an extra 30-35kg for a wheel+tire or 20-25kg for a tire only, of weight on the back door. I wouldn't feel comfortable driving along a heavily corrugated road with that setup.
With all the above in mind, I don't travel with a 2nd spare.
I fitted Mud terrain tires and carry a tire repair kit. That way, the possibility of getting a puncture is far less. I've never had a puncture on any of my trips (including Kaokoland, rocky trails, etc.) I also don't drive over 100km/h on gravel (normally stick to around 80 or 90) - this helps reduce chances of puncturing rear tires by stones disturbed/lifted by the front tires.
Maybe I'm just lucky... but my friend also has had mud terrain tires fitted, and also never has problems with punctures.
With all this said... if you have the space... go for it! Rather safe than sorry!
Cheers
Greg
2008 Pajero DiDc LWB GLS
2005 Pajero DiD SWB GLS (sold)
2005 Pajero DiD SWB GLS (sold)
Tick,
Some additional comments on carrying the second spare behind the first. I have done it and do not make comments without any proof. We have been to the eye of the Zambezi river in the north of Zambia and back. We have travelled Kaokoland and Van Zys pass up and down AMrienfluss and over the Hartman mountains and Damaraland to Hentiesbay from there to Vic Falls, and back to Pretoria via Bots. The next trip was Mabuasehubi and Kalaghadi from north to south and back to Pretoria. For this tip, my friend in his 2001 3.2 GLS copied my bracket and carried one of my spare wheels behind his normal spare. The next trip was through the Namib via Luderitz all the way to Walvis Bay and to Swakopmund. From there to Windhoek and back to the Kgalagadi via the back roads and back along the dirt road to Van Zyls Rus to Pretoria.
My rear door works just like any other and my friend's door as well. They can be inspected any time. So you must choose. Do you believe me who has done it or the people who has never done it and think that it will not work??
Cloyd.
Some additional comments on carrying the second spare behind the first. I have done it and do not make comments without any proof. We have been to the eye of the Zambezi river in the north of Zambia and back. We have travelled Kaokoland and Van Zys pass up and down AMrienfluss and over the Hartman mountains and Damaraland to Hentiesbay from there to Vic Falls, and back to Pretoria via Bots. The next trip was Mabuasehubi and Kalaghadi from north to south and back to Pretoria. For this tip, my friend in his 2001 3.2 GLS copied my bracket and carried one of my spare wheels behind his normal spare. The next trip was through the Namib via Luderitz all the way to Walvis Bay and to Swakopmund. From there to Windhoek and back to the Kgalagadi via the back roads and back along the dirt road to Van Zyls Rus to Pretoria.
My rear door works just like any other and my friend's door as well. They can be inspected any time. So you must choose. Do you believe me who has done it or the people who has never done it and think that it will not work??
Cloyd.
We took one extra sparewheel on our 7 month Africa trip in 2009, had 7 punctures, one stage we had to search a long time to preplace a tyre, as the size is quite unusual in Africa, than took two sparewheels on the second trip in 2011, but with the Hankook Dyna Pro MT, we had only one puncture and that was our own fault.
http://www.meettheoceans.com/2011/03/great-day.html
When we came back after 30000 km, we were quite impressed that the tyres looked quite new.
http://www.meettheoceans.com/2011/03/great-day.html
When we came back after 30000 km, we were quite impressed that the tyres looked quite new.
First of all - I hope you have a fantastic time! We did a similar journey in 2010. 2x Jeep Cherokee (XJ) and my 2001 3.2DiD LWB.
I carried 2x spares and after the first 80km of gravel lost my first tyre. I ended up buying a send hand wrong sized very used tyre at Ais-Ais and lost my second wheel after another 50km.
(Total punctures on 3x tyres about 7)
I ended up buying 2x BF Goodrich at a ridiculous price at Rosh Pinah.
After that I did not suffer any more punctures.
The Jeeps did not suffer any puncture over a total trip of around 3500km.
What is the moral? I don't know. Even being prepared with 2x spares still cost me buying 2x new ones.
Well maybe I have learned a lesson - because there is a story behind the story.
Way back in '98 I travelled Botswana with a International 4x4 (but that's another story) My friend used a Cruiser and his first puncture was after about 150km while still on tar. That was the first of 11 puncture repairs.
So what is the correlation between the cruiser and the Pajero situation. EASY - both had tyres with minimum thread.
So I think the important thing is to have a set of tyres with at least 80% thread BEFORE you start the journey. And then carry 2x spares to be safe!
I will underline again - and maybe have some comments - that if you have decent thread on your tyres you will limit punctures on gravel greatly. And then of course there is the whole issue of what pressure to use. All I can say prevention is better than cure!
I carried 2x spares and after the first 80km of gravel lost my first tyre. I ended up buying a send hand wrong sized very used tyre at Ais-Ais and lost my second wheel after another 50km.
(Total punctures on 3x tyres about 7)
I ended up buying 2x BF Goodrich at a ridiculous price at Rosh Pinah.
After that I did not suffer any more punctures.
The Jeeps did not suffer any puncture over a total trip of around 3500km.
What is the moral? I don't know. Even being prepared with 2x spares still cost me buying 2x new ones.
Well maybe I have learned a lesson - because there is a story behind the story.
Way back in '98 I travelled Botswana with a International 4x4 (but that's another story) My friend used a Cruiser and his first puncture was after about 150km while still on tar. That was the first of 11 puncture repairs.
So what is the correlation between the cruiser and the Pajero situation. EASY - both had tyres with minimum thread.
So I think the important thing is to have a set of tyres with at least 80% thread BEFORE you start the journey. And then carry 2x spares to be safe!
I will underline again - and maybe have some comments - that if you have decent thread on your tyres you will limit punctures on gravel greatly. And then of course there is the whole issue of what pressure to use. All I can say prevention is better than cure!
Llewellyn
1995 Pajero SWB 2.8TD
1996 Delica 2.8td
1999 Pajero 3.2DiD LWB (Diesel problem...)
1997 Pajero Junior 1.1 (written off hitting a Drifter Double cab)
1995 Pajero SWB 2.8TD
1996 Delica 2.8td
1999 Pajero 3.2DiD LWB (Diesel problem...)
1997 Pajero Junior 1.1 (written off hitting a Drifter Double cab)