The Pajero system allows plenty wheelspin. There are other threads where I showed pics of my 2006 DiD LWB spitting out sand at the top of a dune (a dune a D4D) d/cab just couldn't get up.
There is another thread where I tested the wheelspin on my 2008 3.8v6 LWB. Same story, enough wheelspin on a dirt road to get the tail out and keep it there.
I really do not believe that the TC in the Pajero hampers progress in sand. One potential problem is heat generation after prolonged "abuse".
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Hi guys,
Couple of Pajero Whatsapp members asking which Pajeros have traction control (TC) and when it became a feature.
Can somebody shed some light please?
Thanks and cheers
Henri
Couple of Pajero Whatsapp members asking which Pajeros have traction control (TC) and when it became a feature.
Can somebody shed some light please?
Thanks and cheers
Henri
Roelf,
I installed the lock diff in my car and as a result it does not work via the normal software. My diff can be locked in both low and high range.
In deep/very soft sand the ATC does in fact hamper progress. When the computer senses wheel spin it tries to reduce the spin on that wheel by applying brake slightly - thus less oemf!!! If the spinning goes to another axel / wheel, the same applies and even less oemf. The same happens when in mud. The ATC can theoretically control the spinning till the car is stationary.
The problem still exist - how to disable ATC?
Cloyd
I installed the lock diff in my car and as a result it does not work via the normal software. My diff can be locked in both low and high range.
In deep/very soft sand the ATC does in fact hamper progress. When the computer senses wheel spin it tries to reduce the spin on that wheel by applying brake slightly - thus less oemf!!! If the spinning goes to another axel / wheel, the same applies and even less oemf. The same happens when in mud. The ATC can theoretically control the spinning till the car is stationary.
The problem still exist - how to disable ATC?
Cloyd
The GLS models since about 2004.Mitsu Fan wrote:Hi guys,
Couple of Pajero Whatsapp members asking which Pajeros have traction control (TC) and when it became a feature.
Can somebody shed some light please?
Thanks and cheers
Henri
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Cloyd,
Yip - I recall you fitted the DL later.
Have you tried your Pajero in sand and NOT locking your diff?
We know the modes that have both TC and factory fitted rear DL disables the TC when you engage DL. Maybe your symptom is the reason.
I still can't get my head around it - why would a difflocked car even consider gripping the brake on one of the rear wheels?
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Yip - I recall you fitted the DL later.
Have you tried your Pajero in sand and NOT locking your diff?
We know the modes that have both TC and factory fitted rear DL disables the TC when you engage DL. Maybe your symptom is the reason.
I still can't get my head around it - why would a difflocked car even consider gripping the brake on one of the rear wheels?
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Roelf, could it be that the TC is programmed to read spin on alternate wheels, i.e. Left front and right rear etc.? I'm pretty sure I have seen something to this effect before...???
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2014 Pajero SWB 3.2 GLS | EFS Suspension | Stofpad Bashplates
2008 Pajero LWB 3.2 GLS (Sold @ 243,000km)
2014 Pajero SWB 3.2 GLS | EFS Suspension | Stofpad Bashplates
2008 Pajero LWB 3.2 GLS (Sold @ 243,000km)
And if that's the case, then it is possible that the rear axle will be braked with a locked diff.
During an Isuzu offroad day, we were told that only the rear TC deactivates under DL conditions.
There sure is a reason why they all do it.
I thought it rather cool that a lowly old Isuzu would keep the front wheels on TC.
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During an Isuzu offroad day, we were told that only the rear TC deactivates under DL conditions.
There sure is a reason why they all do it.
I thought it rather cool that a lowly old Isuzu would keep the front wheels on TC.
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Back to Cloyd's question:
It seems your after market DL is interfering with the car's TC operation.
So yes, you need to pull the TC plug. If the relay doesn't work for you, then I believe there is a little connector near the rear shaft that can be pulled. There is actually a thread to that effect somewhere in here. I even saved the attached pic - I'll go look for it, to pay for my sins when I didn't offer my red Pajero to you first.
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It seems your after market DL is interfering with the car's TC operation.
So yes, you need to pull the TC plug. If the relay doesn't work for you, then I believe there is a little connector near the rear shaft that can be pulled. There is actually a thread to that effect somewhere in here. I even saved the attached pic - I'll go look for it, to pay for my sins when I didn't offer my red Pajero to you first.
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According to the Manual I have it states you have to physically disengage the TC when you engage 4x4 LR . Never tried a I don't want to get stuck!
Can you post a snapshot pic of that instruction, please. I have never come across that for any of my Pajeros. How does one "physically disengage" the TC, because that will answer the OP's question.Mitsu Fan wrote:According to the Manual I have it states you have to physically disengage the TC when you engage 4x4 LR . Never tried a I don't want to get stuck!
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