Fitting a second aux battery

User avatar
4ePajero
Vehicle: 1989 Pajero LWB
Location: East London
Posts: 1348
Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:59 pm

Re: Fitting a second aux battery

Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:37 am

To me this is getting WAY to complicated.

The way I see it:
  • You have a battery to charge.
  • You chose to charge it with a DC-DC charger, which claims it can use min. 10.5V input voltage.
  • The input (charging source can be one of at least the following sources:
    1. The alternator
    2. A solar panel
    3. Another (charged) battery
  • In the case of using the alternator, you have to protect the cranking battery from running flat (because it is coupled to the alternator)
  • In the case of using another battery as charging source, you have to protect the charging battery from being depleted below a chosen voltage
How you achieve this with plugs and switches can be sorted out once the above is confirmed.


Gerhard Fourie
If you want to shoot somebody, make sure you aim at his head, not your own foot.
Me
Image
User avatar
SimonB
Site Admin
Country: United Kingdom
Vehicle: 2017 Nissan X-Trail
Location: Southampton, United Kingdom
Posts: 1432
Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:44 pm

Re: Fitting a second aux battery

Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:17 pm

Ok so I have all the goodies, the box is made and sitting in my garage waiting for the varnish to dry. Cost me nothing as I had a some 4 and 6mm plywood lying around (as opposed to the cheapest (and ugliest) battery box which was R200).

Still need to go collect a few Brad Harrisons from Powermite. I'm not paying more than double (R65) at Outdoor Warehouse.

Manie said he'd get back to me on a potential solution for charging direct from the first aux battery so nothing is being wired up yet. I suspect however I'll keep to the idea as per CATS's redundant setup, but we'll see.
Simon Bloomer
User avatar
SimonB
Site Admin
Country: United Kingdom
Vehicle: 2017 Nissan X-Trail
Location: Southampton, United Kingdom
Posts: 1432
Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:44 pm

Re: Fitting a second aux battery

Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:32 pm

A couple of piccies. Still need to wire it all up and attach the lid.
IMG_1423.JPG
IMG_1421.JPG
IMG_1422.JPG
Simon Bloomer
User avatar
4ePajero
Vehicle: 1989 Pajero LWB
Location: East London
Posts: 1348
Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:59 pm

Re: Fitting a second aux battery

Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:54 pm

Nice!
Why the charger outside? Heat?

Sent from my iPad using Forum Runner
User avatar
SimonB
Site Admin
Country: United Kingdom
Vehicle: 2017 Nissan X-Trail
Location: Southampton, United Kingdom
Posts: 1432
Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:44 pm

Re: Fitting a second aux battery

Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:11 pm

Gerhard

Yeah for cooling. There's a fan in the charger and I it was to make that fan's job as easy as possible.
User avatar
SimonB
Site Admin
Country: United Kingdom
Vehicle: 2017 Nissan X-Trail
Location: Southampton, United Kingdom
Posts: 1432
Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:44 pm

Re: Fitting a second aux battery

Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:09 pm

My project is almost complete... the "system" has been on "test" for most of the day, running the fridge and the inverter charging camera batteries. I'll leave it until it flattens the battery until the low voltage cut-off kicks in.

I spent most of the afternoon re-installing the new modified battery tray (it was too small for the new DC batteries) in the engine bay and trying to run the second set of cables into the cabin. My fingers are too small and too weak for these electrical cabling jobs. But it's done and now it's a matter of sticking all the connectors on and powering it all up.
Simon Bloomer
User avatar
SimonB
Site Admin
Country: United Kingdom
Vehicle: 2017 Nissan X-Trail
Location: Southampton, United Kingdom
Posts: 1432
Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:44 pm

Re: Fitting a second aux battery

Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:12 pm

Amazing how these projects always explode... Not literally however, my wiring is 100% so far.

I was never happy with how I originally wired in my radio and TPMS so I have redone these as well with their own dedicated fuse box

I am still looking for some way of drawing power only when the ignition is on for the TPMS (previously connected to aux battery). So any bright sparks for this?
User avatar
4ePajero
Vehicle: 1989 Pajero LWB
Location: East London
Posts: 1348
Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:59 pm

Re: Fitting a second aux battery

Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:30 pm

Connect power supply to be connected via a solenoid, that is triggered by the ignition.

Sent from my iPad using Forum Runner
User avatar
SimonB
Site Admin
Country: United Kingdom
Vehicle: 2017 Nissan X-Trail
Location: Southampton, United Kingdom
Posts: 1432
Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:44 pm

Re: Fitting a second aux battery

Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:39 pm

Gerhard

My problem is sourcing ignition power in the first place... I dont know where to draw the trigger from.
Simon Bloomer
User avatar
4ePajero
Vehicle: 1989 Pajero LWB
Location: East London
Posts: 1348
Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:59 pm

Re: Fitting a second aux battery

Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:53 am

Back of ignition switch is usually best.

You either get the correct wire by inspection (AVO meter or test lamp) or from the wiring diagram.

You have the wiring diagrams?
Gerhard Fourie
If you want to shoot somebody, make sure you aim at his head, not your own foot.
Me
Image

Return to “Electrical & Electronics”